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Milkybar-kid
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Post    Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:00 am Reply with quote

You didn't get the package delivered to the grow address did you?
If you did you might want to wait for a few weeks in case you get a knock on the door cause you don't want to get caught in the act.

There is lots of discussion in the older growing forum of how to get seeds and which vendors are better.

You can download Medsafe's Sativex Application Form here which will give your doc somewhere to start:

http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/profs/riss/sativexapplicationapprovalform.doc
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PostMedicinal Marvel    Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:39 pm Reply with quote

I could be wrong but isn't canabis the only drug that can ease pain, insomnia, & nausea as well as increase your appetite
If thats the case then its absolutely insane that most of the western world has outlawed this amazing, pretty smelling little plant
Is marijuana really a medicinal marvel being surpressed & if so why ?
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PostRe: Medicinal Marvel    Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:45 am Reply with quote

Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:
I could be wrong but isn't canabis the only drug that can ease pain, insomnia, & nausea as well as increase your appetite
If thats the case then its absolutely insane that most of the western world has outlawed this amazing, pretty smelling little plant
Is marijuana really a medicinal marvel being surpressed & if so why ?


In A short answer...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$..BIG BUSINESS Pigs in troughs.
All you need to do is look up the history about 'why is there marijuana prohibition'

(((((LIVE LIKE ITS LEGAL)))))
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PostWhat are they afraid of ?    Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:42 pm Reply with quote

But if its worth so much why do the powers that be (ie govt) let all that $$$ go to the blackmarket, which is heavily influenced by the gangs who incase u didnt notice, dont tend to pay alot of tax, which is how our beloved democratically elected members of parliment get away with fleecing us of our hard earned $$$ so they can do fuck all from an air conditioned view & get paid a ridiculous amount of $$$ by us to do it.

U c D, im thinkin that being the case, why dosn't the govt jus decriminalise it or even legalize it, they'd win on 2 fronts, they'd be able to put a sizable dent in the income of of the gangs, take public credit for it & tax the fuck out of it so they can fleece us of just a little bit more $$$ for their backpockets.

U c D, im more thinkin along the lines of what are they afraid of ?
Is it that if marijuana was made freely available for general consumption that there'd be a mass swing in the populice's conscieness & they'd lose not only there cushy little jobs, but their very way of life in a wave of revolution that could have the potential to create not only a new world but a new reality.

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Post    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:20 am Reply with quote

What are you saying icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif Question authority?!! They know best!!!

There is a massive industry created to prop up prohibition, its a moneymaking scheme for the state and many other folks.
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Post    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:47 am Reply with quote

paula wrote:
There is a massive industry created to prop up prohibition, its a moneymaking scheme for the state and many other folks.

But how does the state make $$$ from a blackmarket industry that is predominantly controlled by the gangs, are you saying the pigs (who spend millions of our tax payer $$$ trying to eradicate weed) seize the marijuana then try to sell it back to the gangs (or any1 for that matter) at a profit ?
Im no political expert or anything but how can the state make $$$ off something they don't tax, there's gotta be more 2 it than that

Think for yourself (Dont believe everything you've read or've been told)
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Post    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:06 am Reply with quote

Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:
paula wrote:
There is a massive industry created to prop up prohibition, its a moneymaking scheme for the state and many other folks.

But how does the state make $$$ from a blackmarket industry that is predominantly controlled by the gangs, are you saying the pigs (who spend millions of our tax payer $$$ trying to eradicate weed) seize the marijuana then try to sell it back to the gangs (or any1 for that matter) at a profit ?
Im no political expert or anything but how can the state make $$$ off something they don't tax, there's gotta be more 2 it than that

Think for yourself (Dont believe everything you've read or've been told)
Question authourity (Your parents, your teachers, your friends, the pigs, the govt, your god & even yourself)


They don't make their money directly from prohibition, it is earned via 'lobbying' (bribes/party donations) by big business to keep status quo.

There is too much evidence out there now suggesting cannabis is far safer than alot of other things currently legal, if this were a different topic the govt steps in and fixes it, but when it comes to cannabis they bury their heads, why? - lobbying....
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Post    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:32 am Reply with quote

in my point of view.
The black market is an investment for the govvy.
Paying to police prohibition is $$$ spent and stays in NZ.
Cannabis dealers keeps $$$ flowing in NZ
Imprisoning people is money spent and stays in NZ.
And so on and so on.
And with the little the govvy has left after their budget, they go to
the other countries who we owe $$$ to and say
"this is as much $$$ that we have left over after spending $$$ on maintenance for the country."

Do you see what im getting at? or Does that make any sense??? its hard to write down what i am truly trying to say sometimes..lol.
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Post    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:01 pm Reply with quote

Cheers D & NiceGuy, always appreciate an alternate point of view, helps me to gain perspective & balance towards certain issues that i feel deeply about
I can respect both of ur opinions & can only summise that maybe we're all right in our own spaces
1 thing i think we mite all agree on is that "Abosolue Power, Corrupts Absolutely"

"its not who you are going in that matters ... its what you've become when they're finished with you .... thats the huckleberry"

Viva la revolution
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PostThe Dude strums a G ...    Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:10 am Reply with quote

"i see a light thats shining ... from the west unto the east ... any day now ... any day now ... i will be released"



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