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drstuey
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 Welcome to the Medical Marijuana Forum Posted: Sat May 10, 2003 1:02 am |
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| Use this forum to post your experiences of using cannabis medicinally, general discussion about medical marijuana, and efforts to arrange your own clinical trial or lobby the government to allow medical marijuana. |
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Maniakil
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| Earth's sweet medicine Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:28 pm |
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| As someone who suffers from severe back problems as a result of a climbing accident, I smoke weed for painrelief. I have spent a lot of my time reading everything that i could get my hands on that related to the effects of long term/heavy use. I also discussed this at the time with my (then) doctor who unfortunantly wishes to remain name-less as his views would probbly cost his job on the Otago District Health Board. I have tried to get him to share his views but I can respect his wishes for the time being because I can take heart in the fact that support, for at least the medical use of Cannibis, does exsist in the amongst those who are in the posistion to place heavy pressure on the government to relax the current draconian laws. I have yet to read any reputable scientifc papers that have considered Cannibis to have serious long term affects on health unless you smoke increadable ammounts for extended periods of time. I just wish they would focus on the positive effects for a change. Look what it does for cancer patients, hell it has even been proven in a controlled study that taking Cannibis, with its inherent pyscho-active compounds, reduced the risk of a Renal (Kidney) Transplant patient's body rejecting the donor's organ. Think of how much money the government would save in terms of paying for the op's, surgeons salaries etc. And it would directly reduce the pressure on our troubled donor system. |
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Tony
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| Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:40 pm |
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How about writting this to your MP in fact every MP , on the site you will find all the email addies .
A bill is in the house at the moment we need to encourage .
thanks
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mrdee
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:02 am |
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just found out today tha marijuana is used in the treatment of constipation...well thats enough to make you shit isnt it???  |
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churchoftree
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| Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:58 pm |
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It's good shit indeed  - one of the best medicines for IBS (that's Irritible Bowel Syndrome to those of you with non-spasmodic colons) sufferers.
It can also be good for asthma. Seems counter-intuitive but then so do the cannabis laws! |
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JJJ
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| Hi everyone. Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:07 am |
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| I had a motorcross accident, resulting in a broken back and completely severed spinal cord. Im in pain all the time, but the longer Im up the worse it gradually gets. I take a bucket load of medications every day with the usual top ups during the day. Ive also been told by 2 specialists that I would really benefit from medicinal cannabis. I used to be a RN working in a mental health inpatient ward, so Ive also seen the negative impact that cannabis (and other drugs) has on society. Im also aware of the negative health impact of taking some of the prescribed medications each day. While doing my Ba of Nursing I did research on the relationship between cannabis use and health. Ive read time and time again that medicinal cannabis use involves the ingestion of THC and not the innahalation that is popular here. I think that this way of thinking is the major problem of medicinal cannabis use in NZ not being taken seriously by those who can effect change. As soon as cannabis smoking is mentioned, your basically wasting your time. Personally I believe if NORML etc was pushing for products that are taken orally for medicinal cannabis use that there would be a much higher possibility of change. Currently I have nothing to do with the use of cannabis, due to the legal consequences, but that would change if the law changed also. In my opinion the push in NZ for the legalisation of medicinal cannabis use is being held back not only by legislative and political influences. But also by the way that its being promoted for change, by those who seek change in NZ. |
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Milkybar-kid
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Paul13
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| Re: Hi everyone. Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:22 pm |
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| JJJ wrote: | | I had a motorcross accident, resulting in a broken back and completely severed spinal cord. Im in pain all the time, but the longer Im up the worse it gradually gets. I take a bucket load of medications every day with the usual top ups during the day. Ive also been told by 2 specialists that I would really benefit from medicinal cannabis. I used to be a RN working in a mental health inpatient ward, so Ive also seen the negative impact that cannabis (and other drugs) has on society. Im also aware of the negative health impact of taking some of the prescribed medications each day. While doing my Ba of Nursing I did research on the relationship between cannabis use and health. Ive read time and time again that medicinal cannabis use involves the ingestion of THC and not the innahalation that is popular here. I think that this way of thinking is the major problem of medicinal cannabis use in NZ not being taken seriously by those who can effect change. As soon as cannabis smoking is mentioned, your basically wasting your time. Personally I believe if NORML etc was pushing for products that are taken orally for medicinal cannabis use that there would be a much higher possibility of change. Currently I have nothing to do with the use of cannabis, due to the legal consequences, but that would change if the law changed also. In my opinion the push in NZ for the legalisation of medicinal cannabis use is being held back not only by legislative and political influences. But also by the way that its being promoted for change, by those who seek change in NZ. |
So you don't support the right of adults (R18) to smoke cannabis recreationally? |
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Tony
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:04 pm |
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JJJ
Medical Cannabis is not illegal in NZ , it just take a rather complex special authority approved by the Minister . Sativex is already getting approvals , its $700 pr month cost covered by ACC . You qualify so just apply.
I have chronic spinal cord pain as well , have tried both Sativex and natural product , I gain far more from the natural .
I use and advocate a Vaporiser when possible to avoid inhalation , customs will even let them in if its known as being for medical use .. or did for me.
I would revisit your time in a mental health inpatient ward and really think about it.. How many mono cannabis users did you ever see who did not have pre existing mental health issues ?? was it possibly self medication??
The discovery medpot worked , once I overcame the same objection you have expressed , transformed my life
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JJJ
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:56 pm |
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| Tony wrote: | JJJ
Medical Cannabis is not illegal in NZ , it just take a rather complex special authority approved by the Minister . Sativex is already getting approvals , its $700 pr month cost covered by ACC . You qualify so just apply.
I have chronic spinal cord pain as well , have tried both Sativex and natural product , I gain far more from the natural .
I use and advocate a Vaporiser when possible to avoid inhalation , customs will even let them in if its known as being for medical use .. or did for me.
I would revisit your time in a mental health inpatient ward and really think about it.. How many mono cannabis users did you ever see who did not have pre existing mental health issues ?? was it possibly self medication??
The discovery medpot worked , once I overcame the same objection you have expressed , transformed my life
tony |
Yea Im going to ask about getting the spray Rx the next time I see the specialist and if I do get it I will feedback here to its effectiveness. As for the mental health bit, its a case of the chicken or the egg and which came first. My medical understanding is the cannabis will have an adverse effect on anyone who is thought disordered. They might be self medicating, but in the process making their mental health issue(s) worse. Its also true that cannabis users who have an underlying mental health issue(s) will trigger the offset of mental illness at a much earlier age. In many instances the cannabis use is having the opposite effect of the prescribed medication(s) treating the mental health issue(s).
As for the probability that medicinal cannabis will help my pain issue, I have no doubt of that and Id be keen to be prescribed it.
| Paul13 wrote: | | So you don't support the right of adults (R18) to smoke cannabis recreationally? |
Short answer is no, I wont support it. But in saying that I believe that we all have the right to make our own decisions, so Im not against it either. |
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JJJ
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:24 pm |
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I know, its crazy. The Government/Pharmac spends so much revenue on medications each year and could be saving a portion of it if they changed the current cannabis law and made it OK to have one or two in the back garden. |
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paula
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:37 pm |
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| It will be interesting whether it works for you, its only two of the 50+ compounds found in the plant. The compounds are suspended in alcohol so (from reading about it) you may get a burning under your tongue from that. One of my friends toasts the plant in a pan on a stove and just sprinkles it on his food. There are plenty of ways to use it without smoking, as you can probably imagine. Smoking may actually be a bit of a red herring in relation to pot. Have you read that article about Tashkin's research ? |
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JJJ
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:35 am |
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| paula wrote: | | It will be interesting whether it works for you, its only two of the 50+ compounds found in the plant. The compounds are suspended in alcohol so (from reading about it) you may get a burning under your tongue from that. One of my friends toasts the plant in a pan on a stove and just sprinkles it on his food. There are plenty of ways to use it without smoking, as you can probably imagine. Smoking may actually be a bit of a red herring in relation to pot. Have you read that article about Tashkin's research ? |
To be honest I used to smoke alot in the past, which I no longer can do because I damaged my lungs at the same time that I did my back and spinal cord. Id love to have the real thing in the back yard to add to my baking each week. I cant think of anything better and it might mean that I no longer need some of the prescribed meds Im on. I just need two things first to make it happen. 1. A law change to acknowledge its not a big deal and 2. Some good quality seeds and I can do the rest. |
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Tony
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:00 am |
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JJJ
If you want to do some reading .
Paul Smith " Cannabis on the brain " the Prof of Pharma at Otago. Its the pharma aspect , his conclusions on its medical attributes have since been revisited.
You might find Dr Mark Gordon "The Clinical Application of Interventional endocrinology " of interest as well.
I would expect you have already looked at most of the usual material on medpot and pain.
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NchronicPain
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| hello Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:20 am |
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| Newbie here.... Medical patient in Colorado. Thanks for the info on this forum!! Hope to contribute some soon. Peace |
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chickenman
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| newbie Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:42 am |
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| Another Colo. patient, chickenman here and i know ncp good guy, we will be in contact... thanks all peaceoutchickenman |
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Tony
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| Re: newbie Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:31 am |
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| chickenman wrote: | | Another Colo. patient, chickenman here and i know ncp good guy, we will be in contact... thanks all peaceoutchickenman |
Are either of you connected with your local compassion clubs??
Have a couple of e.friends your way.
tony |
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chickenman
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| reply Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:46 am |
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| Not directly involved, but we are do share, and believe mmj is different than street mj......peaceoutchickenman |
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NchronicPain
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| Re: newbie Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:40 am |
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| Tony wrote: | | chickenman wrote: | | Another Colo. patient, chickenman here and i know ncp good guy, we will be in contact... thanks all peaceoutchickenman |
Are either of you connected with your local compassion clubs??
Have a couple of e.friends your way.
tony |
And who might you know our way?? pm if u'd like |
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JJJ
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| Re: reply Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:10 pm |
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| chickenman wrote: | | Not directly involved, but we are do share, and believe mmj is different than street mj......peaceoutchickenman |
Yup your right there. I tried to get some mmj supplies from overseas so I could do my own. Nothing has arrived so hopefully I can get my hands on some street mj seeds and I'll start with that. The main difference with mmj is that is has much more THC content and more of a high buzz rather than the stoned aspect that you get from the street variety. Im having to reassess my growing options now. Ive come up empty on the options I have and the wheelchair stops me from going to look in places where I could go buy an oz and hopefully get at least a few seeds. Although if its seedless and good, it'll make some damn good cookies! For my situation I cannot smoke because of the damage when I had my accident (MX crash at high speed). But Ive both read and talked to specialists (who dont want to be named, naturally) and the effect of eating medpot is that it'll have a good effect on my neurological system. I was lucky enough to try a cookie with medpot in it awhile back and for the first time I had no sensational pain below my level of being paralysed & it had a good effect on the pain in my spine above. I was sold immediately and knew what I had to get started. Im just waiting for something to grow. Like I said, I tried to get seeds, but Im guessing they got sprung on the way in. I had intended to run something else on the side and force a plant into a sex change and get some more seeds produced. I know a number of others in wheelchairs and Im sure I'll meet more in time. The real good thing about eating medpot was that there was no effect to my head and I could carry on with what I was doing, driving, working, whatever. |
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